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Yes for Wales – Welsh Conservatives support new powers for the National Assembly

Rene Kinzett

24th Feb 2011

With all the controversy surrounding the AV referendum in May, the other referendum next week has all but been ignored by the Metropolitan-based media. Whilst the Parliamentary Ping-Pong of the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill was interesting to watch, the referendum on further powers for the National Assembly for Wales has been progressing at a more steady rate of knots.

 The constitutional settlement with regard to Wales and its place in the United Kingdom has always been different to Scotland and Northern Ireland. History plays its part in this and whilst I wouldn’t overplay the direct effects of the struggles between the Welsh, the Normans and the Tudors, the fact that Wales hasn’t been an independent nation for many hundreds of years cannot be ignored. In Scotland a distinct educational system, a different legal jurisdiction, an “organised” alternative to the Church of England and a recognised separate Royal Household all helped to ferment over centuries a strong civil society in which debates for a new relationship with the United Kingdom could take place in a mature and highly functioning polity. Northern Ireland, with the demands of the peace process, had a different driver to create a new devolved settlement for the Province.

 Wales, on the other hand, has lacked both the benefits of a distinct political identity from England as in the case of Scotland and the political impetus of Northern Ireland finding a sustainable model of devolved administration. The 1997 referendum was held on the basis of proposals for a relatively weak Assembly with the powers to vary legislation pertaining to Wales on a prescribed list of devolved areas. Essentially the Assembly as proposed in 1997 and embodied in the Government of Wales Act 1998 was able to pass secondary legislation, control the devolved budget and had about the same powers as a Secretary of State. The referendum was passed by the smallest of margins (50.3% to 49.7%) and the new system lasted until the Government of Wales Act 2006.

 The current arrangements, as specified in Part 3 of the Government of Wales Act 2006, allow for the Assembly to pass primary legislation, known as “Assembly Measures”, but only if it has received the necessary legislative powers with the agreement of Parliament, through the passing of an LCO, within the 20 fields in Schedule 5 to the 2006 Act. In a nutshell, the LCO process is outlined below:

  • Internal discussion on the terms of a draft Order with the Wales Office and Whitehall
  • Draft LCO published
  • Pre-legislative scrutiny by committee at the Assembly
  • Pre-legislative scrutiny at Westminster, usually by the Welsh Affairs Committee in the Houses of Commons and the Constitution Committee in the Lords. Each committee prepares a report and can propose amendments to the draft LCO, as can the Secretary of State if s/he wishes
  • The Welsh Government considers the various responses, and prepares a formal LCO
  • The proposed LCO is considered by the National Assembly
  • If approved by the Assembly, it is then considered at Westminster. It may be considered again by the Commons Welsh Affairs Committee, and will also be scrutinised by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments
  • Both Houses of Parliament approve the LCO, or not. If approved, it then receives Royal approval

In terms of the referendum, if there is a majority vote in favour of further powers, the Assembly will be able to pass legislation, in the form of “Assembly Acts”, under all areas outlined in 20 subjects in the 2006 Act without the need to follow the LCO procedure. Should there be a majority vote against further powers, the status quo will continue.

 Recent opinion polls have indicated a majority for enhanced powers. The Referendum is also likely to be fought on a low turnout. According to the most recent opinion poll in, late January, 46% would vote ‘Yes’, 25%, ‘No’ with 21% ‘Don’t Know’ and 8% not voting. The Welsh Assembly Government has launched a roadshow-style information campaign to encourage people to vote.

In lining up with Welsh Labour, Plaid Cymru and the Welsh Liberal Democrats in backing a Yes vote, the Welsh Conservatives have undergone a massive policy shift since the 1997 referendum which established the National Assembly for Wales. Back then, there were no major Conservative figures backing a Yes vote and the current Leader of the Welsh Conservatives in the National Assembly, Nick Bourne AM, was one of the chief spokespeople in the No camp. As Nick is now not slow in pointing out, lots has changed in that 13 and a bit years, notably the Welsh Conservatives.

 The Welsh Conservatives were quick to rid themselves of the anti-devolution badge just as soon as they were able to ditch Rod Richards as their Assembly Leader barely a few months after the first Assembly Election in 1999. In that time, Nick Bourne has led the Party in the Assembly and has carefully crafted a progressive message of pragmatic Toryism with a good dollop of support for practical devolution. For Nick, for the majority of Welsh Conservative Assembly Members and indeed for many like me in the County Halls and Constituency Associations up and down Wales, the issue is not really one of “extra powers” for the National Assembly, it is a question of creating a devolution settlement for Wales that is fair, easy to understand and enables politicians in Wales to deliver real change for the people in Wales. The current system with its overly complex procedures leads to gridlock and conflict between Cardiff Bay, Whitehall and Parliament.

 We need a new constitutional settlement for Wales. In supporting the Yes vote, the Assembly Group Leader and his colleagues, as well as the majority of Welsh Conservative Councillors and activists, are working hard to position our Party to be able deliver a progressive Conservative agenda in Wales after the Assembly Elections in May.

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Betapolitics

You are right about us in London (we me anyway) not having a clue about whatis going on in Wales. I’m ashamed to admit that I wasn’t aware that this referendum was taking place. It’s great to see the Tories supporting it and Welsh Tories in general acting in a progressive and pragmatic manner. It’s also great to see Conservatives arguing ‘Yes’ in a referendum, any referendum!

John Broughton

Rene completely misrepresents the Welsh Conservative Party’s position which is officially neutral with the overwhelming majority of members voting NO.

With regard to Rod Richards the time lines are also mistated. Rod, when well was a good leader and a true Conservative. Welsh Conservatives would have made more progress sooner with a man of Rod’s calibre at the helm.

Rene Kinzett

John, from my experience of talking to activists and Councillors, the majority I speak to are in favour of a Yes vote, as are all of our Assembly Members. It is a vocal minority who are supporting a No vote. I don’t know who you are, what position you hold or what you do for the Welsh Conservatives, but as an active campaigner, councillor and former parliamentary candidate, I do get to meet quite a lot of Party Members.

I accept that the Party as a corporate body is “neutral” in that we cannot use Party resources to campaign for Yes or No, but in all the Public Meetings I have been to about the Referendum, I have been meeting Conservative members and voters who are voting Yes. I have spoken on platforms with Conservative Assembly Candidates, Constituency Chairs and others, all campaigning for a Yes vote.

As for Rod Richards I am correct, you need to go have a look at the record. Rod Richards was Leader of the Assembly Group from the May 1999 elections until he stepped down after being charged with assaulting a young woman (he was cleared of this in 2000). Nick Bourne was Leader of the Group from the summer of 1999 after Rod stepped down. Rod was suspended from the Conservative Group on the Assembly after he refused to vote for the Party’s Budget Amendment at the end of 1999. Not really a “true Conservative” or indeed a “good leader” at all!

Christian Holliday

The Welsh Conservative Party has no official position on this referendum. This stance was taken because the party Board knew the strength of feeling against the proposed changes amongst grass roots party members, the vast majority of whom are opposed to a Yes vote.

Nick Denys

Sorry for my ignorance but why would people be against giving themselves more power? It seems to me to be a more efficient way of doing things. If the reason is because Labour has a guaranteed majority I understand it in the short-term but what better way to hold them to account then by enhancing power. Plus you never get far with a negative attitude.

OxfordSpring

I think I share Nick’s confusion/ignorance!
It seems a very strange referdum to have in the first place. “More powers” seems a bit of a misnomer, as no new powers will be apparently be created. It seems rather like a simple streamlining of the legislative process, the sort of thing that usually goes on all the time without any involvement or interest from the electorate.
This change seems to me to be simply the sensible and pragmatic response to a bizarre process of law making enacted in 2006. Conservative opposition to this would seem to stem from those in the party who are conservative (with a small ‘c’), rather than those Conservatives who embrace pragmatism and efficiency, as the party has traditionally done.